started around 9ish.... no one on the trail until later in the afternoon.... but then only one hiking and 3 on horseback. Terraine varies from dirt and grass to sand to rocky (all on the same trail and without warning). mostly flat, but few small hills.... couple of pretty good downhill/uphills on the longer hike. Take a compass with you...maps on the trail are kinda misleading ....points you in one direction, then you come to a fork, but no map to further guide you. Penitentiary Hollow as awesome. Few Rock Climbers were out.... beautiful view and impressive rock/hill. nice view of the lake. Would definitely do again.